How come ...

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Post 1 by Inesle1987 (Account disabled) on Friday, 22-Apr-2005 16:05:50

How come that in some schools, in Germany for example, the students behave like idiots, no matter if it's a grammar school or a school for mentally retarted, and when I come to other countries, the students act way more mature and disciplined? Is this something German students should be ashamed of? I think it is.

Post 2 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Friday, 22-Apr-2005 17:50:18

no, it happens everywhere. no matter where you go, there will always be people trying to screw things up for the students whore trying/wanting to do good in school.

Post 3 by dissonance (Help me, I'm stuck to my chair!) on Friday, 22-Apr-2005 22:55:39

Yeah, I agree with love4all. Theie are people who don't know how to behave everywhere, and it's not just a Germany thing in my opinion.

Post 4 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Saturday, 23-Apr-2005 8:37:47

I can't speak for Germany,Scotland has more than her fair share of school children acting like eejits, I think they are confused about who they are, they are yet to establish an identity and quite often fear and inadequacy forces children to act like eejits

Post 5 by Senior (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Saturday, 23-Apr-2005 11:05:15

Innesle some residential schools are able to use fear to control their students more because they're in a more concentrated and less free environment due to the overly oppressive rules which they are governed by and the authority management imposes on them which is too much. Also, some residential shools used their residentiality advantageously to put more pressure on their students to achieve and in the case of some of these schools, what then happens is that the students go off campus to misbehave meaning that you don't hear about it on campus if they tell you. One of the problems of the authoritanian attitude of residential management though, is that when these kids behave unlawfully off-campus, it's because they're not restricted by the schools rules. Another problem is that if the school becomes aware, the innocent can become even more restrictive.

Post 6 by Inesle1987 (Account disabled) on Saturday, 23-Apr-2005 12:23:19

Ah, I really thought this wa a typical German thing, the rudeness and all that.

Post 7 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Monday, 25-Apr-2005 12:06:20

No no if anything I expected the Germans to be tougher on discipline..

Post 8 by Inesle1987 (Account disabled) on Monday, 25-Apr-2005 14:37:17

No, they're absolutely not. Teachers say there is only one of 20 classes who works independently without making noise and trouble.

Post 9 by charisma (Here today, gone tomorrow.) on Monday, 25-Apr-2005 20:30:48

Come here to US, you'll find that here, a lot. I think it's worldwide actually. Many many people are rude, insensitive, only caring about themselves, and seem to enjoy being that way. Not all people are like that though, as there are plenty of nice people in Germany, there are plenty of nice kids here, too, and all over, but yeah! Rudeness seems to be the trend nowadays.

Post 10 by Inesle1987 (Account disabled) on Tuesday, 26-Apr-2005 15:38:03

Well I've been to other schools for the blind and I found more disciplin there. In Russia and in England for example.

Post 11 by Louise (Veteran Zoner) on Thursday, 28-Apr-2005 8:26:21

Sometimes it's not the students who are always at fault. in 2001, we had some french students come over on an exchange trip and we had to endure a whole week of total rudeness! we were constantly insulted by the students, they had really bad manners and the staff did absolutely nothing to keep them under control but just let it ride! It was horrible!

Post 12 by sugarbaby (The voice of reason) on Thursday, 28-Apr-2005 8:41:09

I think a lot of it comes down to respect, or lack of it. It's all about children's rights these days, children's rights to speak out, the right for children to have more freedom ... etc etc, and I think that with more and more parents choosing to go back to work after they have a child, parents rely more and more on the schools to effectively bring up their children. Disciplin needs to be enforced from an early age, and if the parent isn't at home and the child is put into a nursery from the age of 6 months, there is no one there to ensure the child learns the ground rules before he/she goes to school. and by the time they go to school it's too late, and without the backup of the parents, the school are unable to do anything.

Post 13 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Thursday, 28-Apr-2005 12:59:56

I would disagee about the nursery remark Louis is in nursery for 2 hours monday-wednesday and he loves it, he is friendly, sociable and as polite as its possible for a 2yrold to be smile..if we took him away from that supportive enviroment, Louis would struggle to cope and become a very unhappy and isolated little boy
....however I will agree that it doesnt work for every child but its harsh to condemn parents for returning to work when the economic pressures of every day life, coupled with the extra financial demands of raising a child, may have forced them into that difficult position..

Post 14 by sugarbaby (The voice of reason) on Thursday, 28-Apr-2005 13:02:58

no no I'm not talking so much about a child who spends a few hours a week in nursery - social interaction etc with other children do them no harm in fact it is good for them, i'm referring more to the children who are dropped off at nursery at 8 in the morning and picked up at 6 at night, from the age of 6 months, and who eat their breakfast, lunch, and dinner there and whose parents simply pick them up to take them home and put them to bed only to start again the next day.

Post 15 by sugarbaby (The voice of reason) on Thursday, 28-Apr-2005 13:25:21

I think anyone who says that they have to put their child into nursery full time for financial purposes must be earning a hell of a lot of money to justify doing that - the nursery local to us charges £175 a week to put a child in full time, that doesn't leave a lot if you're only on an average income.

Post 16 by Inesle1987 (Account disabled) on Thursday, 28-Apr-2005 13:54:40

No, I agree. They shouldn't do that, parents should do more together with their children.

Post 17 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Friday, 29-Apr-2005 8:39:19

absolutely we would never leave the little man for the whole day it's beyond cruel..the children must feel abandoned...

Post 18 by Inesle1987 (Account disabled) on Friday, 29-Apr-2005 14:17:06

But unfortunately other people would disagree with us on that point.